Ryan Swehla Interviewed on Juniper Square’s “The Distribution” Podcast with Brandon Sedloff | Durable Value Ep 88

n this episode of the Durable Value Podcast, Ryan Swehla is interviewed by Brandon Sedloff from Juniper Square's "The Distribution" podcast. Ryan and Brandon discuss the private equity real estate strategy of Graceada Partners, focused on secondary and tertiary markets in the Western United States.

Ryan shares his journey from Wall Street to Modesto, California, where he and his third-grade friend Joe built a $650M real estate investment firm. Learn about their contrarian approach to investing in overlooked markets, the infrastructure required to succeed outside major metros, and why they believe secondary and tertiary markets represent a $1.6 trillion opportunity.

When Freight Never Sleeps: Power, Autonomy, and the New Map of the West | Durable Value Ep. 87

Welcome to the Durable Value Podcast! Host Joe interviews Matt LeDucq, CEO of Forum Mobility, about the electrification of trucking, the evolving power grid, and the impact on real estate and logistics. Dive into technology, policy, and the future of industrial development in the Western US.

Real Estate as an Infrastructure | Durable Value Ep 86

In this episode of Durable Value, we explore the concept of real estate—especially multifamily and industrial properties—as essential infrastructure. We discuss how these asset types function as a public good, their role in the economic grid, and why secondary and tertiary markets are becoming increasingly important. Tune in for insights on market dynamics, institutionalization, and the future of real estate investment.

Lessons Learned from the Most Recent Downturns | Durable Value Ep 85

In this episode, we break down the recent real estate downturn, what caused it, and the key lessons for investors. We cover interest rate impacts, the importance of cash flow, fixed-rate debt, and how to find opportunity in uncertain times. Whether you’re an experienced investor or just curious about real estate, you’ll find actionable insights here.

Detachment vs Conviction in Investing | Durable Value Ep 84

In this episode of Durable Value, we dive deep into one of the greatest paradoxes in investing: the tension between detachment and conviction. How do you balance making data-driven, unemotional decisions with the need to act decisively and believe in your thesis? Join us as we explore real-world examples, investment committee dynamics, and the strategies that set world-class investors apart.

The Data is in the Drywall | Durable Value Ep 83

In this episode, we dive deep into the concept of "the data is in the drywall" and how hands-on, property-level insights drive better decision-making in real estate. Ryan and the team discuss the importance of vertical integration, boots-on-the-ground intelligence, and blending physical experience with data analytics to gain a competitive edge. Whether you’re an investor, operator, or just curious about real estate, this episode is packed with actionable insights!

5 Years of Durable Value: Lessons, Growth, and the Future of Real Estate | Durable Value Ep 82

Join us for a special anniversary episode of Durable Value as we reflect on five years of podcasting and 17 years in business together. Hosts Joe and Ryan share candid insights on personal growth, leadership, and the evolution of their company. From navigating market cycles and scaling a team to the enduring power of friendship and core values, this episode is packed with wisdom for entrepreneurs, investors, and anyone interested in building something that lasts.

Unlocking Value: The Elk Grove Industrial Complex Deep Dive | Durable Value Ep 81

In this episode of Durable Value, we take you behind the scenes of our recent acquisition—the Elk Grove Industrial Complex in Sacramento, CA. Discover how we sourced the deal, why this property stood out, and the strategies we use to unlock value in multi-tenant industrial assets. We discuss market dynamics, the importance of fresh eyes, and how private ownership creates ongoing opportunities for value-add investors. Whether you’re a real estate professional or an investor, this episode is packed with actionable insights and real-world examples.

Turning Around The Lofts: Inside a $29M Real Estate Transformation | Durable Value Ep 80

In this episode of Durable Value, we dive deep into a real-world case study: the acquisition, turnaround, and rebranding of The Lofts at Stadium Square in Fresno. Join us as we break down the sourcing, negotiation, due diligence, and execution that turned a struggling student housing property into a thriving multifamily asset. Learn about the challenges, strategies, and lessons from one of our most successful investments to date.

Failure Science, Why Good Companies Drift and How to Avoid Catastrophe | Durable Value Ep 79

In this episode of Durable Value, we talk about the science of failure—why even great companies and properties can drift off course, and how to recognize and prevent the subtle missteps that lead to bigger problems. We discuss the difference between luck and skill in investing, the dangers of narrative reinforcement, and practical strategies for building resilience in your business. Whether you're a real estate investor, entrepreneur, or leader, you'll find actionable insights to help you avoid common pitfalls and turn failures into stepping stones for long-term success.

Navigating Investments: Why The Map Isn't The Territory: Durable Value Ep 78

In this episode, Ryan and Joe talk about an intriguing philosophical concept relevant to both life and investing: 'The Map is Not the Terrain.' The discussion touches upon creating mental models, the importance of conservatism in investing, psychological biases, misidentification of market cycles, execution friction, and much more.

Navigating Real Estate Law and Investments with Larry Hass: Durable Value Ep 77

In this episode of 'Durable Value,' host Ryan sits down with Larry Hass, a seasoned partner at DRB Law Firm, specializing in real estate law. They speak about Larry's extensive career, his transition from government roles at the SEC and Department of Labor to private practice, and the evolution of real estate investments over the last 50 years. The discussion covers the emergence of pension fund investments, the impact of regulatory changes, and the shifts in investment landscapes and property types over the decades. Larry also shares insights on the Pension Real Estate Association's role and offers advice for new entrants into the industry.

Essential Framework for Real Estate Investing: Durable Value Ep 76

In Episode 76 of Durable Value, hosts Ryan Swehla and Joe Muratore talk about the essential framework for real estate investing, drawing on their experience to provide invaluable insights. They break down the three key legs that support successful investing: mastering strategic vision, balancing risk and reward, and excelling through execution. With real-world examples and practical advice, this episode is a must-listen for anyone serious about real estate investment.

Building Resilient Portfolios in a Volatile World: Durable Value Ep 75

In this episode of Durable Value, Ryan discusses building resilient investment portfolios in unpredictable economic conditions. The discussion includes the impact of inflation and recession fears, key attributes of a resilient portfolio, the importance of geographic diversification, and strategies for weathering economic downturns.

The Psychology of Risk and Reward in Real Estate: Durable Value Ep 74

In this episode of 'Durable Value', hosts Ryan Swehla and Joe Muratore talk about the psychology behind risk and reward, particularly in the context of real estate investing. They discuss topics such as loss aversion, market cycles, and balancing caution with optimism, providing valuable insights and practical advice for investors at any stage in their career.

The Importance of Portfolio Diversification | Durable Value Ep. 73

In this episode of Durable Value, Joe Muratore and Ryan Swehla talk about the intricacies of portfolio composition and the vital role diversification plays within it. They explore various aspects, from balancing risk and opportunity to the importance of geographic and asset-type diversification. Whether you're invested in industrial, multifamily, or both, learn how to strategically navigate your investments in secondary and tertiary markets.

The Role and Function of Investment Committees | Ep. 72: Durable Value

In this episode of Durable Value, Joe and Ryan weigh in on the essential role of investment committees in making sound investment decisions. They discuss how investment committees serve as a system of checks and balances, ensuring alignment with overall objectives and providing a platform for objective critique and strategic approval. The conversation covers various topics, including the structure of their investment committee, the importance of experience, the dynamic nature of investment committees, and real-life scenarios illustrating their decision-making process.

Peter Finley: From Navy to Wall Street | Ep. 71: Durable Value

In this episode of Durable Value, Ryan Swehla sits down with Peter Finley, head of institutional capital markets at Graceada Partners. With his extensive background in real estate and capital markets, Peter shares invaluable insights from his days in the Navy to navigating market cycles on Wall Street. He discusses the evolution of institutional landscapes, his experiences during the S&L crisis, GFC, and more. We get a detailed look into the cyclical nature of the financial markets and timeless wisdom for upcoming capital raisers.

The "Why" | Durable Value Ep. 70

In this episode, from the 2024 investor day, Ryan talks about the why of Graceada partners. He talks about the foundational principles and history of Graceada Partners, exploring their conservative investment strategies, lessons learned from the Great Financial Crisis, and their focus on secondary and tertiary real estate markets in the Western U.S. He also highlights the firm's unique competitive advantages, risk mitigation measures, and the importance of conservative leverage in maintaining resilient and profitable investments.

Jonathan Woloshin: Investment Strategies and Real Estate Investments | Durable Value Ep. 69

In this episode of Durable Value, Ryan speaks with Jonathan Woloshin, Head of Real Estate Research for UBS Wealth Management's CIO Office. Jonathan shares insights on his role and expertise in the U.S. real estate market, from residential and commercial real estate to lodging, and discusses key trends and regulatory actions affecting the sector. The conversation touches on the historical context of real estate cycles, the challenges and opportunities in today's market, and investment strategies for different asset classes. Jonathan also shares his career on Wall Street and offers advice for young professionals entering the field.